By Jamie Ruby
Mary McDonnell is probably best known for her role as President Laura Roslin on the Syfy remake of Battlestar Galactica
. She, however, has appeared in various films in the past such as Independence Day
and Donnie Darko
, and on television in series such as ER
and Grey's Anatomy
, and of course in the role of Captain Sharon Raydor in The Closer
As The Closer
ends, the new spinoff series, Major Crimes
, starring McDonnell as the same character, begins, starting August 13.
McDonnell recently talked to the digital press about her new series.
TNT Conference CallMajor Crimes
July 18, 2012 QUESTION:
Obviously you've been a part of this group for a while, and Major Crimes
has a built-in audience. But Kyra was such a huge part of The Closer.
How will the new show differentiate itself from the old show, and in what ways will it try to stay similar for the fans? MARY McDONNELL:
I think inherently it will change because Brenda Leigh Johnson is gone. So that was the center of the show, it was called The Closer.
So right there, that is the biggest difference. The Major Crimes division continues as it would in life with almost all of the same people, so there is the sameness.
We've got these really wonderful rich characters that we've been attached to and exploring life with for many, seven years. And they are still there, most of them trying to solve crime in Los Angeles. So there is the sameness. How this particular division goes about solving crime now has to change inherently because they no longer have Chief Johnson.
And therein lies the reality of the new show. That's where it begins. QUESTION:
I've heard some of the cast members who are coming back but not all. Who will be and won't be coming back, I'd like for you to identify, I haven't heard anything about J.K. Simmons, whether he's coming back as Pope or anything like that. MARY McDONNELL:
I can't really talk about the cast members yet because that has to evolve as you see the plot. SCIFI VISION:
I wanted to know if you could talk about how the character is going to be evolving and has changed since she first appeared on The Closer. MARY McDONNELL:
I think evolving is the key. What we're doing is we're seeing a woman who was in a very specific professional role; through a very specific lens and as a character she had a very limited functionality within the ensemble of The Closer.
And she was clearly brought in to be the antagonist.
And as we evolve into Major Crimes
this character is evolved into - she professionally changes, she shifts. And we begin to view her through a different job, a different set of circumstances, and different things are asked of her. And one of the beautiful things about the writing is that it very organically allows her to grow in front of us because we're watching her in a different situation from a different point of view. SCIFI VISION:
And also, can you talk about how the show started? Were you approached for this spin-off at the very beginning? How did that all start? MARY McDONNELL:
No, I wasn't approached at the very beginning. I was asked to come on and do an arc of three episodes. And I was quite happy to do it. It looked like a lot of fun to come in and stir the pot, as they say. And I really wanted to work with Kyra and James Duff offered it to me, and I thought I was coming on to do three episodes. And it just evolved, and here we are.
And also I will say for you because you're sci-fi, right? SCIFI VISION:
Yeah. MARY McDONNELL:
Okay, one of the reasons James wanted to talk to me this is because he was a Battlestar Galactica
So, what is the secret to Captain Raydor's success, do you think? MARY McDONNELL:
The secret to her success? As a character? QUESTION:
Yes. MARY McDONNELL:
I think its commitment. I honestly feel like what I've learned from her is a kind of unabashed commitment to whatever it is she's doing, and she stays incredibly focused, and that can create many responses in many different people. And I think that's a lot of her fun. QUESTION:
And would you ever like to see her paired with another of the other detectives in the department to work a case? MARY McDONNELL:
Oh, absolutely. I'd love to see her paired with some of the other detectives, and I'm looking forward to seeing how she begins to engage when they have common ground. QUESTION:
Since you mentioned Battlestar Galactica,
of course you were brilliant as the president for so many years. How was that transition initially coming into The Closer
to play Raydor? And second part of my question is, since I do know who is coming back, will we still see some of the buffoonish, Detective Flynn and Provenza episodes still? MARY McDONNELL:
Well, I'll start with the second one first. QUESTION:
Okay. MARY McDONNELL:
That Flynn and Provenza - their wonderful natures - those don't go away. Believe me. Oh my goodness, that's like precious gold. You will see plenty of Flynn and Provenza in that way that you described them as wonderful. And the first part of your question - QUESTION:
How was it through this transition? MARY McDONNELL:
The transition? Well, it was interesting because having been, excuse me, the president of the universe, I did learn a little bit about a solitary woman in a power position. So I did a little bit of research about that when I was working on her. And when I came into The Closer
and I realized that this woman, the character that James brought to me, had an element of that in that she had to have her eye completely, clearly on what the goal was.
And not get mixed up in some of the other dynamics that quite often we do get mixed up in. So it was a little bit of that to tap into. And that was interesting. And it was also interesting to be working in L.A. as opposed to Canada, there's a lot of differences in the work environment, but in both case it was a really strong, exciting ensemble and great writing so I just felt lucky. QUESTION:
Raydor was an antagonist for Brenda as you had mentioned. Will there be a female antagonist for Raydor at all on Major Crimes? MARY McDONNELL:
I'm not sure. I'm not sure the answer to that question. I do know that what we are slowly and very richly carving out is beginning to understand how - let's just keep looking at how does the crime get solved in the new dynamic, and what aspects does that bring out in this character that we have not seen in her other job. And how does that interact with these other fabulous actors and characters, and how they feel about things. And so there's absolutely room for antagonism on all sides and connection on all sides, and I think that that's what's really exciting about the exploration. QUESTION:
Will Raydor be the center of the show or will she blend with the cast? MARY McDONNELL:
Well I don't think that there is a - how do I put this? It is both an ensemble and she is both at the center and it is more of an ensemble. Without giving away too much, Raydor's position in the new show is by it's very nature forcing or asking of her to be more present for each and every other character in it, and there will be a deepening of the engagement between Raydor and the other people. QUESTION:
And do you exec produce at all on the show? MARY McDONNELL:
No, I do not. No. QUESTION:
Will we get to learn any of Raydor's back story at all? MARY McDONNELL:
Yes you will. QUESTION:
Your character in this new show is going to be thrown into the fire basically. You have no allies because you've basically targeted these people for a reason, and not for a reason previously. And do you have an ally? Are you totally - you know, Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect?
You're completely by yourself, and you have no one watching your back, or do you develop an ally among these people? MARY McDONNELL:
This is how I would describe it without giving too much away. It's a great question. She begins this journey pretty much a woman alone. And yet what I've found out doing it and what we're finding out what James is writing and what everyone is that she has a deep commitment to whatever job she is in.
And by necessity in the new show, the job dictates a stronger connection with her engagement with the other members of the ensemble as it were. And that starts to create stories that take us in new directions. And it isn't that she develops one ally here or one enemy there, anything like that. There is a natural necessity for this group of people to figure out how to solve crimes together. And out of that comes a new show, a new story. QUESTION:
But this is not something she's ever dealt with before, so it's a learning experience for her, too. MARY McDONNELL:
Well, she hasn't had this particular job, but she's been a professional running a captain in internal affairs for decades. This is not a woman who has not been in a corporate situation where she's a boss or had to have a lot of people working beneath her. We've just never explored her professional situation on her turf when we were in The Closer.
And now she's on their turf, but this is a woman who knows how to be in the position she's in. QUESTION:
And does she have family? MARY McDONNELL:
Yes, she does. QUESTION:
And that family would be? Can you tell us? MARY McDONNELL:
I can't tell you yet. QUESTION:
She is so focused that does she have room and time for family, or what's her relief when she goes home from these guys who don't want here there? MARY McDONNELL:
This is such an interesting question. And it's the kind of thing where I can't wait until the show has evolved more so that we can talk more about it. I can't talk about it yet, because of the spoiler thing. But I will say this. In a general sense, we're looking at a woman eventually.
We're looking at a woman who actually has had a very full life. Whether or not it was perfect? Of course not. But [she] has had a full life. And there are reasons why someone may or may not have chosen to go through the LAPD as an internal affairs person as opposed to a detective where you are on call 24/7.
And there’s a question and an exploration there about how do professional women also raise children? How does it happen? What are the choices that a woman at mid-life has to make at a certain period of time in order to create the goal of being balanced, perhaps?
And so there's a little bit of exploring of that reality in there because that is what we are seeing with women who are my age who are now taking on positions in their professional life that are demanding more of them than ever before, and a generation ago these same women would have been retiring. So we have an opportunity, I think, to explore something that's happening all around us. And to have some stories evolve out of that.
And also interesting is the response of the people around women in our culture who are taking on these positions. I think I've said it a couple of times today, but I really mean it. This is the era of Secretary Clinton. And we are beginning to redefine how we are perceiving what women are doing once they turn the corner at mid-life.
Are they taking on bigger jobs? Yes, they are. And had we been telling stories about that for the past 100 years? Not really. So it's a really wonderful thing to explore in my opinion. I feel happy about it. QUESTION:
I was wondering about the tone of the show. The Closer
seemed to have a balance between humor and drama, some of the gritty elements were relieved by a joke from someone. What kind of tone will we see from Major Crimes
? MARY McDONNELL:
Well, what I can tell you is that this a new show based in an old show or an original show. This is a spin-off from the same incredible creative mind of James Duff. And he's a very funny man. And I think that the same responsibility that he felt during The Closer
towards finding what is delightful and light, it will be his impulse in Major Crimes
You've got to find the balance. Tthat is his style of writing. There is a tonality to his writing that also addresses the humor inside the dire, and I think that that will continue. SCIFI VISION:
Is there something in particular that you would like to see happen to your character, if it was up to you and you could write anything? MARY McDONNELL:
Is there something in particular that I would like to see happen to her? I am so busy playing what has been written and really exploring it and trying to understand it and enliven it. So I haven't really projected outside of that yet, but I think that as soon as we finish the first season I will have all kinds of ideas.
So far it's been pretty fascinating. QUESTION:
What do you find the most challenging acting-wise on the show? MARY McDONNELL:
What do I find the most challenging? That's a good question. I think that the biggest challenge for me at the moment or for the character or for myself, I think for me, is to - what I really felt was very important, was to be patient with the evolution of Sharon Raydor because I felt it was very important to not abandon the Captain Raydor that we got so used to getting angry with or upset by or whatever it is, frustrated by and how much we enjoyed that in her.
I wanted to make sure that she came along and that what we end up doing is opening her up so that we begin to see other aspects of her but we don't suddenly change the woman. QUESTION:
Kyra said she might come back, maybe to do some spots and how would you feel about that in Major Crimes
? And have you done any kind of police work like ridealongs, anything like that since you've played the part? MARY McDONNELL:
I actually have spent some time with some lady female detectives at the LAPD. Absolutely. And of course it would be great if Kyra came - oh my God, it would awesome. There's all kinds of potential for a lot of things to happen in this situation. QUESTION:
What was the biggest thing you learned from this female detective. What was her biggest kernel of wisdom she gave you? MARY McDONNELL:
One of the greatest things I found out about them is that they loved, and this is very helpful for me with Sharon Raydor, the two women that I spent the day with that I just absolutely loved them. They both commented on how difficult it would be for them to work the schedules that we work in Hollywood because things were so out of control.
That their lives, and their jobs had shifts and a routine to them, that they found was easier than what we were explaining to them goes - and I'm sitting there with these women who have gone after major criminals and had huge careers in the Los Angeles Police Department, and they're telling me that they would find it very difficult to be in the crazy floating hours that we do out here, and I found them so wonderful and amusing and human.
They were great. They were absolutely awesome. And very practical women, and very cool looking and very wonderful and warm and funny but really focused when they needed to be. It was just a great, wonderful thing to see.