Grimm Stars Forecast "Really Intense Emotional Stuff"

By Karen Moul

altGrimm returns from hiatus this week with an intense new episode. Although Renard and Juliette’s secret has been exposed, their attraction will intensity. Series costars Sasha Roiz and Bitsie Tulloch gave us a preview of what’s in store.

“What happens on Friday night,” said Tulloch, “we’ve not seen the likes of on Grimm so far. I think it’s just a great way to deal with what’s going on between the two of them and also to highlight how little control they have over it. That this is not some slow burning love, they can’t control the lust."

Roiz called the episode “Grimm after dark, a little racier version."

“I think [the fans will] be pleased,” he added, “and it’s a good payoff after this long hiatus.”

This week also brings the long-awaited showdown between Nick and Renard.

“I’m really glad that it’s happened,” said Roiz. “I’m really glad that we had a chance to finally confront each other because I think it’s something the fans had been waiting for a long time. And we as characters and actors had been waiting for as well. So I don’t think it’s a moment too soon.”

And what can we look forward to for the rest of the season?

“There’s a lot of really, really intense emotional stuff coming up for Juliette,” hinted Tulloch, “really heavy and pretty serious.”

As for what happens at Portland PD, Roiz feels "it’s really Nick’s choice at this point whether he wants to move ahead, whether he wants to stay Portland, or whether he wants to deal with me with her. So there’s going to be a lot of fallout and that’s going to occupy the remainder of this season. That’s really going to be a very delicate balance I think moving on."

And what about the key? “You’re definitely going to see some form of resolution to it,” Roiz promised. “It’s a major storyline for us and it’s going to be dealt with. But it will take the course of this season to deal with it properly.”

Grimm airs Friday night on NBC at 9/8c.

NBC Conference Call
Bitsie Tulloch and Sasha Roiz

March 6, 2013
4:00 pm ET

QUESTION: We’re going to be doing this watch-a-thon for Grimm and I was hoping that each of you could pick one or two of your favorite episodes and tell me why they are.

SASHA ROIZ: Bitsie, I’ll let you start.

Bitsie Tulloch as JulietteBITSIE TULLOCH: From Season 1 I really like the episode “Game Ogre” just because that was the first time Juliette was inadvertently drawn into the fray in a physical way. I think it was Episode 10 or something.

And I also liked from Season 1 “The Thing with Feathers,” which is the one where Nick and Juliette go away for the weekend to that romantic cabin and all hell breaks loose. And again, I think one of the reasons I like it is because she ends up having to hunt down and save Nick.

And then there’s been a lot of great stuff from Season 2 but I would say from Season 2 so far my favorite episode is the one that’s going to air on Friday night.

QUESTION: Okay. Sasha?

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, I would agree, the one that airs Friday night is pretty amazing and I think it’s got something for every character so I think that is really what appeals to me is when everybody’s featured and there’s such high stakes.

I think from Season 1 is probably “Three Coins in a Fuchsbau” I believe it’s called because it was the first time we get a sense or a glimpse into the Captain and some of his personal life and some of his ambitions. So that was a lot of fun for me.

QUESTION: So Sasha, this moment was going to happen where your character was going to find himself in this situation. Did you expect it would be this soon, really the beginning of Season 2?

SASHA ROIZ: Which situation are you referring to?

QUESTION: The showdown with Nick.

SASHA ROIZ: I was actually surprised it’s as soon as it is. I thought it could even be dragged out until the end of the season. But I’m really glad that it’s happened. I’m really glad that we had a chance to finally confront each other because I think it’s something the fans had been waiting for a long time. And we as characters and actors had been waiting for as well.

So yes, I don’t think it’s a moment too soon.

QUESTION: And Bitsie, your future has changed somewhat, not a lot but in some ways you’ve gone to some pretty extreme measures. Has playing her different ways given you a better understanding of who she is or helped you to mold the character more than had you just played her the one straight way?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Yes, absolutely. In Season 2 I’ve had so much more to do with, her which is not to knock the storyline from Season 1 because at the beginning of Season 1 this guy who I’ve been dating, who I loved, he lost basically the woman who raised [him].

And I know a lot of fans were saying, “How can she be so naïve, how is she not seeing this?” But she was just being really understanding and sensitive to Nick’s situation.

But waking up in Season 2 in a coma and then having just this big empty hole where this man once lived has been crazy and I have to say you have not seen the worst of it. What goes on with Juliette gets much worse before it gets better. So they’re just starting to lay out what’s going to happen the rest of Season 2.

So as an actress it’s definitely been so much fun for me to really go into these deep dark depths of the character and her mental space. And she’s really starting to lose it. As you can imagine it’s crazy to wake up and see pictures of this guy, this stranger all over your house and be told that you guys were going to get married and all this stuff and you have no recollection whatsoever.

And then all of a sudden she’s lusting after someone she barely knows and can’t control herself. It’s enough to make anybody mad. So that’s been fun for me.

QUESTION: I was wondering, will fans be surprised to see how far Juliette and Renard’s relationship will go?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Well, what happens on Friday night we’ve not see the likes of on Grimm so far. I think it’s really fun and I think it’s just a great way to deal with what’s going on between the two of them and also to highlight how little control they have over it, that this is not some slow burning love, they literally are both - they can’t control the lust.

And obviously it gets to a violent place and neither of them is really wanting this to happen, they can’t help it.

Obviously Sasha’s character understands more of what’s going on coming from that world and Juliette is just like, “All right, well, I guess par for the course, I’m already losing my mind.”

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, will they be surprised? I think they’ve seen it escalate and this will be a great payoff I believe. It’s fun, it’s fun to explore new ground, new territory with Grimm. It’s almost like Grimm after dark, a little racier version. So I think they’ll be pleased and it’s a good payoff after this long hiatus.

QUESTION: Bitsie, I heard there’s a love scene that required a lot of rehearsal. Can you talk about how that fits in and why it took so long?

BITSIE TULLOCH: It took so long because we had to have a stunt coordinator help us out, particularly me. I’m sort of known among the cast members [as] being - I don’t know, Sasha, what would you say?

SASHA ROIZ: She’s a little clumsy.

BITSIE TULLOCH: Yes, and that love scene also got edited down massively but when we were actually shooting it, it took something like eight-and-a-half hours to get through which is incredibly long for basically one scene because it was so complicated and it did require such coordination.

SASHA ROIZ: That said, Bitsie always wants a stunt coordinator there when she has a love scene, so who knows?

BITSIE TULLOCH: That’s right, that’s my style.

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, no, but it was intense. I think it was definitely a shocker for us when we read it because we really didn’t believe it when we read it. We thought it was a bit of a joke. But they went there.

BITSIE TULLOCH: Have you seen the episode?

QUESTION: No, I haven’t seen it yet.

BITSIE TULLOCH: I didn’t think so.

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, but it was just a lot of fun.

BITSIE TULLOCH: It was so intense that we thought it was a joke. We literally thought it was a joke. When we read the script we were like, “Ha-ha, where’s our real script?”

SASHA ROIZ: I think it came out well. I haven’t seen it but I presume it came out well.

QUESTION: Well, now that Nick knows about the Captain and Juliette, can you talk about the impact that it has on the three characters going forward?

SASHA ROIZ: Well, it’s going to be very delicate moving ahead and I don’t want to say too much because we’ll see what happens, because it’s really Nick’s choice at this point whether he wants to move ahead, whether he wants to stay Portland, or whether he wants to deal with me with her.

So there’s going to be a lot of fallout and that’s going to occupy I think the remainder of this season to see what will transpire and how pieces will fall and - where they fall I should say. So that’s really going to be a very delicate balance I think moving on.

QUESTION: Bitsie, you have had a lot of success in all of the various acting mediums, including the Internet. So I was wondering your opinions on how far online entertainment has come and where you see it going crossing with television? And Sasha, if you want to chime in too that’d be great.

BITSIE TULLOCH: I read something recently that the Nielsen people, the ones who do the Nielsen ratings are actually going to start counting people’s watching (unintelligible) online which I think is a huge deal because so many people do watch.

BITSIE TULLOCH: When we did Quarter Life, it was the first television show that had gone from the Internet to TV and so that was a huge deal for me. And that was only back in 2008 and here we are five years later and it seems like that’s par for the course.

And the reality is I think that every thing is - to me they go hand in hand with this stuff. The fact if I’m not shooting on a Friday night I try to live tweet with the fans so there’s Internet and social media, to me goes hand in hand with our show.

This Friday I’m going to (unintelligible) to the West Coast (unintelligible) with the fans and that’s something that I love to do for them but it also just feels like if you have access to your fans you want to do be able to do stuff like that.

And the fastest way to get access to your fans and develop a somewhat personal relationship with them is using the Internet.

SASHA ROIZ: As far as Internet content, the divide is completely being reassessed right now, or redefined because - I can’t even tell sometimes with me if I’m actually online or watching TV just in the way I view the television now because I stream things from my iPad to my television and vice versa.      

Netflix is releasing series now that [are] really getting critical acclaim and they’re changing the format by releasing an entire season. I think television viewing is really at a crossroads now and a lot of things are going to change in the new few years the way we view it.

And ultimately I think as viewers it’s going to benefit us because it will just cater to our viewing patterns. So I think it’s all moving in a really interesting direction.

QUESTION: Speaking of social media, I saw that you’ve been retweeting fans on both sides of the whole smack down Grimm-wise.


QUESTION: If you had to pick your favorite and least favorite thing about each character to be fair on both sides of the smack down, what would they be?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Good question.

SASHA ROIZ: Favorite is - let’s see, well, I like and dislike how secretive Renard is because on one hand it’s really fun to play. On the other hand, sometimes even I don’t know what he’s up to. He’s just a very mysterious character and the writers keep me guessing because we don’t always know. So it’s a very difficult balance to strike sometimes but it also keeps me very engaged as an actor and viewer.

The Grimm, I think - what do I like and dislike? I mean I don’t know. The Grimm - Bitsie, what do you like and dislike about him?

BITSIE TULLOCH: I can’t answer that question. At this point my answer would be I don’t know because I don’t even remember him.;
Sasha Roiz as Captain RenardSASHA ROIZ: What I like about him is he’s remarkably likable, I think both Grimm and David Giuntoli, remarkable likable. I don’t know. I don’t know if I have anything.

QUESTION: Handsome, good kisser, what’s not to like?

SASHA ROIZ: Stop, stop. Anyway, it’s all good. It’s all fun stuff.

QUESTION: Sasha, you and Bitsie were referring to some of the stunt doubles and choreography. How much of that for fight scenes do you actually have to do? And is it difficult?

BITSIE TULLOCH: We didn’t have stunt doubles. We did it all. We just had somebody go through it to make sure that I didn’t hurt him, basically.

QUESTION: Awesome, so if you're doing your own fight scenes then what’s that like? Is it really hard?

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, it can be taxing after a while. With Bitsie and I it was actually - it wasn’t bad. I was surprised we both walked away from it I think fairly unscathed. The one with David and I, it was two o’clock in the woods on a Friday. We were just exhausted from the week and we’re doing our best for this really long fight sequence where there were some stunt men in fact because there were some things you can’t do.

BITSIE TULLOCH: They won’t let you do.

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, exactly. We did most everything on our own and we did end up hurting each other, David and I. But that’s par for the course and it’s fun to do it and it’s just challenging. It’s just another challenge, I suppose.

BITSIE TULLOCH: I had a scene - without teasing too much, I had a scene recently where I did my own stunts and I had to be rigged to something so that I wouldn’t fall off. And I’m supposed to go to the edge and literally on the first take I almost fell off.

And I would have just been dangling there. And then our stunt coordinator was like, “Maybe we should have (unintelligible).” It was really funny. And then I was fine the rest of the time but I think it’s pretty fun.

SASHA ROIZ: The fact that you’re still in one piece after 40 episodes is remarkable.

QUESTION: What’s the most difficult scene or episode you’ve had to do so far and why?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Mine hasn’t aired yet. There’s a lot of really, really intense emotional stuff coming up for Juliette, just really heavy and pretty serious. And so that’s probably the hardest that I’ve had to do but I don’t think - that episode is something to look forward to, I guess.

SASHA ROIZ: This upcoming episode I should say was pretty hard for me. I think it was challenging on all levels because physically it was a lot of - Bitsie spoke about a lot of fight choreographies and sequences and long hours.

And then emotionally as well, it just took Renard to every realm of emotion and so it was pretty challenging.

QUESTION: Sasha, can you tell us a little bit about what’s going on between Renard and Adalind in this episode and moving forward?

SASHA ROIZ: It’s very antagonistic and she’s definitely a thorn in my side and she’s out to thwart all of my plans. She’s also incredibly conniving and manipulative just the same as I am I suppose - or Renard is

And so she knows how to play him and what I love about some of the writing is you really don’t know who’s playing who sometimes. I think there’s always a turn of the tables and it will be interesting to see what transpires.

But she certainly has presented herself at a very difficult time for him - he’s very vulnerable at this point and so she’s found a weakness and her timing couldn’t be better.

QUESTION: Do you think there would ever be a time when the two of them could hook up, that she could give Juliette a little run for her money?


SASHA ROIZ: Well, I think you’ll have to watch on Friday because who knows? It certainly some challenge to it there, yes.

SCIFI VISION: In the same vein, at the same time that Juliette and Renard’s relationship is exposed, Renard’s secret identity is maybe about to be exposed and people are circling around the key. Will we see a resolution to that storyline in this back half or at least see it come to a climax?

SASHA ROIZ: You’re definitely going to see some form of resolution to it. And yes, it’s a major storyline for us and it’s going to be dealt with. But again, it will take the course of this season to deal with it properly.

SCIFI VISION: Okay, and Sasha, do you see any way that that this goes back to being a cop drama, any way that Renard and Nick can work together as police officers going forward in coming seasons?

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, I believe so. Like I said, we’re going to have to deal with a lot of issues and see if we can put aside our differences and work together again.

So a lot of that depends on Nick and whether he’s able to forgive, able to move forward. But I think he could move ahead and if anything it could open up a whole new chapter now that we’re in the know and there’s no secrets anymore. There’s the possibility to certainly be better partners.

QUESTION: Sasha, what was it like having not one but two love scenes in the episode?

SASHA ROIZ: It was a lot of fun. They definitely kept me busy in that episode. There was a lot of love, a lot of hate, a lot of fighting, a lot of - not fighting.

But it was a very busy episode from (unintelligible) find himself into some very interesting situations. So yes, an action-packed episode I believe.

QUESTION: Yes, and because there’s so many game-changing incidents throughout the episode, what can you preview for people after they see it? What’s going to happen next?

SASHA ROIZ: Well, I think at least for Renard there’s going to be a real challenge in keeping the Grimm loyal, keeping the Grimm in Portland, keeping the plan that he had concocted for so long in place, keeping Adalind at bay.

And making sure that we could continue as a police force and continue as also this mythological team to keep outside influences and forces at bay from encroaching on our domain.

Bitsie, I pass the mic to you.

BITSIE TULLOCH: What happens in the rest of Season 2 I think has been really fantastic. Literally every episode once we got back from our hiatus at the end of January, every episode - they’re really doing huge episodes that are just very grand in scope…I’ve read some of them and been like, “Are you guys crazy? There’s no way you're going to be able to shoot this in eight days.”

Really fun, crazy new Wesen and they’re delving deeper into - I want to say it’s not just the mythology or the way that we’ve been referring to the mythology but literally mythology, almost like a God-like creature.

They’re really going in new directions and the episodes really - I’m not just saying this, they get better and better. And I’m really proud of what we’ve been able to do in Season 2 and where it’s going. And I think the fans are going to be super, super excited about the last ten episodes of Season 2.

QUESTION: I’m wondering what your favorite Wesen are over the last little while.

BITSIE TULLOCH: As everybody knows, I loved the Eisbiber, I loved the actor who plays the [Eisbiber], Danny Bruno. He’s fantastic. I’m so proud of him.

They’ve written him - smartly they’ve written him into a pretty major recurring just because he’s just so lovable and it’s nice to have a Wesen that’s not necessarily a scary, blood thirsty Wesen.

And then I also like as far as the scary ones, I really like the Mauvais Dentes who was the saber tooth tiger Wesen from the first two episodes of Season 2.

SASHA ROIZ: I don’t think anything would make Bitsie happier if they wrote in a French bulldog Wesen. She would be in heaven, a lovable, sloppy, slurpy French bulldog. I know, right? One day.

I like the reapers, I like what they represent mythologically, the scythe that they carry, the fact that they come in to reap revenge and that they’re after the Grimms and they have this very specific purpose in the world.

I also like my own character in a way because I like the Hexenbiest but what I love about it is that we never had any half-breed before. And so the fact that you could cross-pollinate, you could have all these part creatures, part Wesen, that makes it really interesting for me. And I’m really curious to see that develop and to see that whole other culture that exists that just has a trace of Wesen blood in them.

Grimm on NBCQUESTION: And what did you guys do in your hiatus? Did you get up to anything fun?

BITSIE TULLOCH: I shot an incredible movie that is being released worldwide in November opposite Paul Giamatti and Jacki Weaver and Marcia Gay Harden and Jackie Earle Haley and Billy Bob Thornton called Parkland that Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman produced for Playtone.

And it will be released in November around the anniversary of JFK’s assassination because it’s a period film about the assassination. So that’s what I did.

SASHA ROIZ: I went to Australia and surfed, there you go.

QUESTION: I was wondering if we’re ever going to get any backstory on Renard, the royal bastard, and anything about his mother, the Hexenbiest who bore him? Is she still alive or are we ever going to meet her? And how did you get in police work? Was it before you knew you were a royal or after?

SASHA ROIZ: That’s a lot of back story. I think we will uncover more about the royal bastard, which is my favorite terminology these days. But yes, you will. We’ve already introduced members of his family.

We’ve already displayed and will continue to display more things from the old world and how things work there and had worked there and continue to work there. And so you will get some more on him and the world that he comes from.

As far as police work, I don’t know. We’ll have to touch upon that but I think if I was to wager a guess it’s probably because it’s a great way to have a certain level of power and authority, which is really all he’s after.

QUESTION: And pick up chicks.

SASHA ROIZ: And pick up chicks. I mean when you put on that uniform. When you put on those blues, hubba, hubba.

QUESTION: Is [James Frain] coming back in the second half?

SASHA ROIZ: I believe he will come back at some point. I can’t tell exactly when though.

QUESTION: He’s a great actor.


QUESTION: So the time off, does it give you a chance to reevaluate your characters coming back to this next season or did you even think about them or even think about what they’re going to do this time around?

BITSIE TULLOCH: I didn’t, just because I was shooting a film and I had to focus on that one.

SASHA ROIZ: I think more than anything it probably gives us a chance to appreciate the work and look forward to coming back.

QUESTION: Earlier you all discussed about the Internet being the new television. And of course, network is fighting against both that and cable and stuff like that. Why do you think a show like Grimm continues to come up on top despite all these other obstacles?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Because it’s fun. And I think this is something that all the cast have been saying ad naseum but it’s true is that the show has a little bit of everything for everybody. For people who like procedurals you have the romance. It’s funny, especially with characters like Silas Weir Mitchell’s character and Reggie Lee’s character, they’re pretty funny. And then you have the fantasy, you have the sci-fi, you have these monsters, you have the visual effects. There’s really a lot going on.

SASHA ROIZ: I agree with Bitsie. I think we struck a really delicate balance where there’s so many different styles at play and there’s so many different things that can appeal to the viewers.

But I think ultimately we also don’t take ourselves too seriously. There’s a humor to the show that underlies the entire thing. So it’s just very palatable. I was impressed at how wide a net they could throw and how varied our demographic can be.

BITSIE TULLOCH: The show unsurprisingly does very well internationally because it doesn’t take itself too seriously. You're dealing with heavy things but you're dealing with it in a light and fun way.

And it’s not one of those shows that’s lost in translation. People are familiar with these fairy tales so it’s fun to tune in and see how they’re being reinterpreted in a modern way.

And it doesn’t surprise me at all that the show does so well internationally and that some of our main diehard fans have come from other countries all over the world. And it’s just expanding into more and more territories.

QUESTION I know the Hexenbiest put that obsessive spell on both of you but do you think there is any genuine affection between the two of you?

SASHA ROIZ: I would say probably not. I would - well, I got to be honest. I think that it’s forced us into a situation that is probably pretty unnatural. Not to say that she’s not an attractive woman but I don’t think that Renard would even allow himself to even venture in that territory if he was not under the spell.

BITSIE TULLOCH: You know, the truth is they barely knew each other. The assumption is they may or may not have met at a couple work functions.

So who knows if they want to play with this more down the road but the reality is when they first came under the spell they didn’t really know each other so this lusting and obsession really is, for lack of a better word, manmade. It’s chemical. Not chemical in the pheromone way, chemical like literally poison and they’re both under a spell. No love at first sight.

QUESTION At Comic-Con we jokingly said that could Juliette’s character take on Adalind. So I’m just wondering are we going to see that ultimate girl fight?

BITSIE TULLOCH: I think that’d be some super fun but I guess I don’t know the answer quite yet but I definitely think I’ve always been pushing - whether it’s Adalind or somebody else, I’ve always been sort of trying to plant the seed of Juliette becoming a bad ass.

SASHA ROIZ: With this show you never know. There’s likelihood of anything happening.


QUESTION Even with Bitsie being a little bit accident-prone?

BITSIE TULLOCH: Accident prone equals more damage done.

SASHA ROIZ: We’ll just get her a helmet.

QUESTION Sasha, now that we know that you are half Hexenbiest will we see Renard fully transform now that he’s dealing with emotions with Juliette and now that Nick knows that Renard is the other man? Will we see him slip up and maybe lose his composure and maybe transform for Nick to see that he’s a Wesen?

SASHA ROIZ: You’ll just have to wait until Friday and maybe you’ll see something.

QUESTION And also, will we find out anything about how you separated from the royal family?

SASHA ROIZ: Yes, yes, there’s going to be more back story and there definitely be a lot more reveals about where he comes from and how he came to be.

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