
Today, Paramount Plus released the series finale of
Evil. In the final episode, David (Mike Colter) learns that Leland (Michael Emerson) might go after his assessors and questions how the Entity will stop him. They are ready to make their move to stop the Sixty, but don’t heed Sister Andrea (Andrea Martin)’s warnings. Meanwhile, the Bouchard girls play a game on their VR goggles that starts a countdown and shows possible visions of the future that frighten more than just the girls. Then, as their time as team draws to a close, with David ready to move on to a new church, Kristen running her practice, and Ben (Aasif Mandvi) at a high-paying desk job, they get an offer they never expected.
Recently, star Mandvi spoke with SciFi Vision about the end of the series, including if he was satisfied with his characters ending, why he thinks Ben stopped using the tinfoil, how his life has changed since starting the series, and much more.
Read the full transcript below. All four seasons of
Evil are now available to stream on Paramount Plus.
SCIFI VISION: So, the first thing I wanted to ask you, is that Ben talks to Kristen and David about the way that they've been changed, but he doesn't actually say how they've changed him. So, my question is, how do you think he's changed the most since he's started all this? AAISIF MANDVI: Oh, interesting. I think that Ben started out much more certain about things. I think he has been dragged sometimes tooth and nail through these experiences and into a place where I think his certainty has been challenged. And I think he lives in a place - I mean, you know, by the end of this, he's wearing a tinfoil hat and sleeping in tinfoil. It's bananas, right? So, I think Ben has been challenged of his certainty. And I think he has befriended these two people. They were very different than him. David in the finale talks about how he doesn't have a lot of friends, but neither does Ben. You don't see Ben hanging out with anyone outside of Kristen and David
[laughs] really, other than [his] sister. So, I think that Ben also is a bit of a loner, and I think he has embraced a kind of friendship, because if you go all the way back - I was thinking, if you go all the way back to the beginning, you know, Ben was kind of like, “This is just a job. I'm doing this as a job. It's bullshit, but I'm doing it.” You know, it's a paycheck, right? Then, by the end of it, I think he's developed relationships, and he's developed friendships and maybe isn't quite as certain about things that he thought he was.
So, how have you changed? What have you either learned about yourself or just that you feel has been altered since you started your journey of Evil? Oh, I mean, look, how have I changed? I think that when I started out in this show, I thought there was a huge chasm between me [and Ben] in that, I thought there was this sense of, like, he's this empiricist, the scientist. I'm so different than that. I believe in things much more. I'm much more a spiritual [person], kind of my gravitational pull is different than his. But then over the course of time, I think we have become closer. I think that I probably do feel like there's more Ben in me than I would have ever thought, in terms of his sense of slight eye roll-iness and sort of like a sense of his not wanting to - like, looking at the idiocracy of the world and kind of going like, you know, “Everybody's kind of fucked.” And also, personally, I have gone through a personal change, which is that through the course of doing this show, I became a dad, and so that's just in my own personal life, which I think changes you on a very fundamental level. So, yeah, I mean, then just getting to work on such amazing material with such amazing creators and people and all the stuff. It's rare that you get a job that you enjoy. Sometimes you do a job because you're like, “Oh, that's a good paycheck, and hopefully it's good,” and, you know, whatever. Then, other times [not], but I've been fortunate in the sense that, like, this is one of those jobs where I was always excited to go to work. I was always excited to read the scripts and see what they came up with next. It was always fun to play in this world. That didn't go away at all. So, that was great. I didn't ever got bored by doing the show.
Were you satisfied with his ending? Because you talk about a paycheck, I was surprised Ben didn't go with them. Were you satisfied with the way they ended his story? Well, I mean, he's making $650,000, so, I was like, “Okay, there's a pragmatic level to this.” It's just practical. Like, he went from making 65k to 650k. What would you do? You know what I mean?
He has the money; he can fly and travel and visit them all the time. [laughs] Right, like he can go visit them whenever he wants, and he doesn't need to wear that silver hat anymore. Like, I think that Ben probably on some level, he made the practical choice for himself. I don't think - look, he's not in love with David the way Kristen is. So, I understand why she went to Rome, but I also wonder how long Ben's gonna stay at that job. I give him a year, and then he’s out of there.
Well hey, that's a lot money. He could be happy for a while. It makes sense. He's like, “Listen, I'm just gonna go and just…”
[laughs] and then he just kind of goes around and fixes air conditioning units for a while, you know? But, yeah, I feel like he made the right choice for himself in that moment, but I don't know if he's going to stay there.
That's fair enough. Now, you mentioned the tinfoil hat. Is he better or just deciding not to wear it? Because I noticed he didn’t wear it in the finale, but they didn't say anything, unless it was cut. Yeah, they never [did]. It's funny how sometimes I feel like - they didn't mention it. But why? You know, I think it's because once he left the ghostbuster business, I think he no longer needed it, because I don't think he was being haunted in the same way, and I think it had to do with the world that he was in. But as
Evil as often does, we sort of played with these ideas, like, was the tinfoil ever solving anything, or was it just something that he was imagining? Because, you know, was the Jinn real ever, or [would] the migraines just have gone away on their own? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, but clearly he didn't need it anymore.
And that was my other question. Is it hard to play him a lot of times, not knowing what the truth is? Do you have to kind of come up with your own version of what you thought it was, or do you think of it going every which way as you're playing it, just from an actor's perspective? Oh, interesting. You know, there's always a sense of cynicism for Ben. So, I think my thing, the thing I realized about playing Ben, is he's always looking through the lens of, is this real, or is this not real? And I'm trying to figure out if it is, and I think that that is always where he lives. So, there is a kind of ground that he can stand on. It's not the ground of like, “Oh, I don't believe it,” but he's always looking at it with a sense of skepticism and trying to like, muddle his way through it. So, that was where I lived with it. I think that, maybe in season one, if you go back to the earlier seasons, you'll notice that whenever Ben walks into a room, he always is checking the ceiling and the floor and the door and the thing, and he's always doing that. That was something I came up with as a kind of reality for Ben, which is that when he is walking into a situation - not like when he's with David and Kristen, but when they're on a case, he's always looking for, like, is it the window? Is it the door, is it the air conditioner? Is it the thing? And that, for me, was always where Ben lived. He's always investigating and trying to figure out, is this real or not?
Were you given anything, or did you take anything from the set, just kind of to remember the show? Well, Ben's wardrobe belies his 65k a year salary. So, I was like, “I'm taking some of these jackets.”
[laughs] So, I did take some of the clothes that Ben wears. There's some nice jackets that he wore that were very expensive. Did I take anything else from the show? I don't think so. I don't think I did. There was some stuff on that set of his apartment that I could have probably taken, but the only thing I would wanted were those computers and they were too big to walk out with.
[laughs] [laughs] Yeah, I don't think you could sneak those out. I don't want to keep you too long, but is there something else that you want to promote? No, I think, you know, I just hope that the powers that be see fit to have us continue and tell more stories, because I think there're a lot more stories that we wanted to tell, and I don't think that we were - I think that we were canceled prematurely. So, I hope that someone else finds us. We're all ready to keep doing it. I think the fans would love it.